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Let $f: [a,b] \to \mathbb{R}$ be such that $f', f''$ exist for every $x \in [a,b]$. Let $(x_n)$ be a sequence of distinct points in $[a,b]$ such that $$\lim_{n \to \infty} x_n=y$$ and

$$f(x_n)=0$$ for every $n \in \mathbb{N}$. Prove that $f(y)=f'(y)=f''(y)=0$.

I don't know why they stipulate $f$ is twice-differentiable for every $x \in [a,b]$. Isn't it meaningless to define differentiability at a boundary?

Anyway. My reasoning was the following.

(1) We know $y \in [a,b]$ because closed sets contain their boundary points. Hence, $f$ is differentiable at $y$ and therefore also continuous at $y$, which means

$$\lim_{x \to y}f(x) = f(y) \tag{i}$$

But if this limit exists, we know that it's preserved under composition with any sequence such that $s_n \to y$; in particular,

$$\lim_{n \to \infty} f(x_n)= \lim_{x \to y}f(x) \tag{ii}$$

But $f(x_n)\equiv 0$, so (i) and (ii) jointly imply $f(y)=0$.

(2) Since $f'(y)$ exists, by definition the limit

$$\lim_{x \to y} \frac{f(x) - f(y)}{x - y} = \lim_{x \to y} \frac{f(x) - 0}{x - y} = f'(y)$$

must exist and be preserved under composition... etc. Since $f(x_n)\equiv 0$ (and the denominator doesn't vanish because we can take infinite $x_n$ such that $x_n \neq y$), the limit again must be zero. Hence $f'(y)=0$.

(3) By definition we have

$$f''(y) := \lim_{x \to y} \frac{f'(x) - f'(y)}{x - y} \stackrel{\text{L'Hôpital}}{=} \lim_{x \to y} f''(x)$$

so $f''$ must be continuous at $y$. If $f''(y)$ didn't vanish, its continuity would imply that there's an interval $I^* = (y - \epsilon, y + \epsilon)$ in which it preserves its sign. Notice that then $f'$ would be strictly monotonous in $I^*$. Since $f(y)=f'(y)=0$, $f$ would be strictly monotonous in $(y - \epsilon, y)$ and in $(y, y+\epsilon)$.

But this is absurd because there are infinite points $x_n$ in $I^* - \{ y \}$ such that $f(x_n)=0$. Hence, $f''(y)$ must vanish.

Is my proof correct?

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  • $\begingroup$ Limit of what is y? There seems to be a typo $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 6:28
  • $\begingroup$ @DhanviSreenivasan Fixed. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 6:30
  • $\begingroup$ Your arguments in (3) are not valid. You seem to claim that if $f''$ exist then it is necessarily continuous. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 6:32
  • $\begingroup$ @KaviRamaMurthy I use L'Hôpital's Rule to prove it. I don't simply assume it's the case. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 6:35
  • $\begingroup$ @Deep_Television You have to know that $\lim _{x \to y} f''(x)$ exists to apply the rule, You don't know that so your proof is not valid. Actually, it is quite unreasonable to expect that $f''$ would be continuous in this question. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 6:40

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It is obvious $f'$ is continuous. So in each interval $(x_{n-1}, x_n)$ there's a $x'_n$ so that $f'(x'_n)=0$

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